Senate budget committee questions SRS food stamp policy

Members of the Senate Ways and Means Committee today grilled a top welfare official about a controversial change in policy that has resulted in at least 1,000 children being dropped from the state’s food stamp program.

"Can you tell me how this fits in the governor's roadmap to take children out of poverty?" Sen. Laura Kelly, a Topeka Democrat, asked Michelle Schroeder, director of public policy and legislative relations at the Kansas Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services.

"This is a policy that's based on equality in the system," Schroeder said. "We had to look at the policy in totality as it affects every household."

"Which is easy to do when you're sitting in an office in Topeka dealing with them in the aggregate," Kelly replied. "It's a little harder to do when you're back home and can't go to the grocery store."

The previous policy for determining eligibility for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) allowed households headed by non-citizens to earn, on average, about $900 more per month than households headed by citizens and still qualify for benefits, said Schroeder, repeating what she told a House committee last week.

Kelly said that rationale seemed to be flawed. She pointed to a document with four scenarios under the previous formula where all-citizen households fared better than the same household with an undocumented member.

"The premise that households with an undocumented resident (were) being treated better, that doesn't appear to be the case," Kelly said.

Formula change

Prior to October, food stamp eligibility for Kansas children of undocumented parents — as in most states — was determined by a formula that counted a fraction of the household income to account for the parents’ ineligibility.

For example, if the non-citizen parents in a five-person household — two parents, three U.S.-born children — earned $2,000 a month, that $2,000 was divided by five and multiplied by three to determine whether the family met the program’s income threshold and to decide the amount of food aid it would receive. In this example, the monthly household income would be counted as $1,200, making the three children together eligible for about $365 a month in food stamps, or about $121 per child.

By contrast, if the parents were U.S. citizens, the five people in the household would be eligible for a total household benefit of about $425 a month, or about $85 per person.

SRS officials concluded that the potentially greater per-person benefit under the old “prorated” formula was unfair even though the total household benefit was less for the family headed by undocumented parents.

With the new policy, all household income is counted but only the number of citizens in the house is used to determine eligibility.

The change resulted in 1,042 children losing benefits in households with at least one undocumented parent, according to SRS.

Federal regulations do not allow illegal immigrants to apply for food stamps for themselves. They are, however, allowed to apply on behalf of their minor children, if the children were born in the United States. Citizenship is automatic for U.S.-born children regardless of the status of the parents.

SNAP, funded by the federal government but managed by states, is still commonly referred to as the “food stamp” program, even though beneficiaries now use a government-issued electronic swipe card to purchase groceries. About 141,000 households in Kansas receive SNAP benefits.

One of four states

Kansas is the fourth state to adopt the current eligibility requirements — Arizona, Utah and Nebraska are the others. The other 46 states use the eligibility formula previously used by Kansas, which changed its policy in October 2011.

"Why are only four states using this program?" asked Sen. Terrie Huntington, R-Fairway.

"I can't answer that," Schroeder said.

→ Continue reading, and view the document cited by Sen. Kelly, at khi.org/foodstamps.

Tagged: nutrition, food, children, SNAP, srs, stamps, immigrant, undocumented, alien

Comments

George_Braziller 1 year, 3 months ago

So does that mean, I don't know the answer or I'm not allowed to answer the question?

"I can't answer that," Schroeder said."

0

sunny 1 year, 3 months ago

Free food, health care, housing, and now free birth control! Somebody has to pay for all of this free stuff!

0

wastewatcher 1 year, 3 months ago

LI BERAL LAURA KELLY would probably give everyone all of the food they can use and have someone else pay for it. She did not whine when her LIBERAL friend Sebelius was spending the state into the poor house and now she whines about everything. Elections have consequences and the LIBERALS were soundly defeated in the last election. I wonder what kind of food stamps the home country of the illegals has?

0

vertigo 1 year, 3 months ago

Apparently you forget the conservatives have held a majority or super majority in the Kansas legislature for at least the last 60+ years. Where do spending bills and budgets originate? In the legislature.

0

merrill 1 year, 3 months ago

"Free food, health care, housing, and now free birth control! Somebody has to pay for all of this free stuff!"

Please explain how any of the above come free. That is simple absurd.

First of all all taxpayers pay into the cookie jar in the event the services may need to be activated. In essence all who pay taxes have contributed including those who are forced into the need.

Second trying to make do at this level can neither be comfortable nor necessarily be desired.

What about billionaire employers that refuse to pay a sustainable wage instead advise their employees of SRS services? Think Wal-Mart for one.

Heath care is a service that we as humans are born to need and is certainly not a matter of choice. Yet expensive insurance portrays health care as some retail item that can only be within reach IF the wallet is fat enough. This is immoral.

Birth control is a means to reducing abortions and keep SRS services budgets to a minimum.

Free food and housing what a joke. No such thing. Any person who has paid taxes has made a contribution make no mistake about that.

Now what about the politicians and their special interest campaign contributors which have contributed greatly to the need for SRS services? You know the outsourcing of USA jobs by the millions and twice taking the USA economy down the tubes at a cost of trillions of dollars and millions of additional jobs.

ENTITLEMENT - Bailing out The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist aka home loan scandal sent the economy out the window costing taxpayers many many $$ trillions (Cost taxpayers $1.4 trillion), Plus millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

ENTITLEMENT - Bailing out the Bush/Cheney Home Loan Wall Street Bank Fraud cost consumers $ trillions, millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. Exactly like the Reagan/Bush home loan scam. Déjà vu can we say. Yep seems to be a pattern. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

Where was Sam Brownback and what was he doing to prevent any of the above?

  1. Talking up the global economy and supporting the largest export of all..... USA jobs.

  2. Living comfortably off of taxpayers and not paying attention or perhaps turning a blind eye. My goodness Sam Brownback seems to the be among the largest of tax dollar moochers. Here is man worth close to $6 million living off the taxpayers.

0

kansasplains1 1 year, 3 months ago

Merrill, you are right on.

Who are these people who post here--and, of course, they remain anonymous-- who would just as well see a young person die??? All people deserve a chance. I'm so sick of this mentality. I don't know how else a person could speak the way they do.

And everyone deserves to know who people are when they speak. Thank you!

0

Commenting has been disabled for this item.

Bert Nash Community Mental Health Center »

Bert Nash client shares his story by writing poetry: 'If I can help anybody along the way, I'm glad to do it'

Ron Fowler likes to express his thoughts and feelings by writing poetry.

Ron Fowler may not be comfortable speaking in front of a group. He prefers to express his thoughts and feelings in a different way. Writing ...

Relay For Life of Douglas County »

Light up Douglas County with a Birthday Celebration!

May 22, 2013 marks the 100th Birthday of the American Cancer Society (ACS). The ACS has worked relentlessly to save lives and create a world ...

Growing Food, Growing Health »

Growing Food, Growing Health 2013 Crew

We are in constant amazement of the magical, inspirational growth in our gardens. Throughout a season, we watch dozens of species blossom and change, growing ...

Bobcat Marathon Club »

Wait! There's More!

Haley finishes with 26.2!

Two more finishers to end the season! Way to go Bobcats! Now that's a wrap!

Bert Nash Community Mental Health Center »

Easy rider

Bicycling is part of a healthy lifestyle.

May is Bike Month, but every month is bike month for Bert Nash psychiatrist Joe Douglas. He rides his bicycle to work year-round, weather permitting, ...

Fun Runs and Walks »

Run for Kids 5K

The Run for Kids 5K run/walk will take place Sunday, May 19, 2013 starting at 8 am. The race will start behind Johnny's Tavern at ...

Relay For Life of Douglas County »

Relay Idol Competition at Relay For Life of Douglas County

Relay Idol Flyer

Got talent? Prove it! Introducing Relay Idol to Relay For Life of Douglas County Friday, June 7th, 2013 Free State High School Track Lawrence, KS ...

NeuCare Family Medicine »

Creating end-of-life wishes with a free, online service

MyDirectives.com. A free online service to create a personalized Advanced Medical Directive.

As a primary care provider, I ask all new patients if they have end-of-life wishes or formal "Advanced Medical Directives". Advanced directives are often part ...

Bert Nash Community Mental Health Center »

Be our guest

Bert Nash CEO David Johnson hosted a group of visitors from Africa. Each member of the Rotary group study exchange team works in the medical field.

Visitors from Africa — part of a Rotary group study exchange — were guests at the Bert Nash Center on Wednesday and attended a Discover ...

Marcia Epstein's Blog »

Headquarters Counseling Center Receives 2013 Crisis Center Excellence Award

Headquarters Counseling Center was honored with the Crisis Center Excellence Award by the American Association of Suicidology (AAS) at their conference in Austin. The annual ...

LMH working to prepare for 'Obamacare' insurance exchanges, but questions aplenty remain

There are still a lot of details even the top officials at Lawrence Memorial Hospital don’t understand about the new system of buying health insurance under the federal Affordable Care Act. But Joe Pedley, LMH’s chief financial officer, believes one concept for consumers is abundantly clear. “People had better learn how to do math,” Pedley said. By Chad Lawhorn

A Trail a Day »

Summer Love: Tips for hot weather running

In the heat of summer, try to schedule runs early or late in the day and find shade.

As I entered mile five or so of my run this morning, I started thinking time had sped up and it was July because no ...

Bobcat Marathon Club »

NOT TOO HOT TO TROT ... OR FINISH A MARATHON!

Andrew! Nice work!

Aye, aye aye! We had 42 marathon finishers today! As a club, we ran a total of 6,839.8 miles! We had 132 kids finish one ...

Lawrence-Douglas County Health Department »

Lawrence environmental health specialist takes mission trip to remote Alaskan area

Andrew Stull, environmental health specialist for the Lawrence-Douglas County Health Department, stands between the bones of a Bowhead whale near a cemetery in Point Hope, Alaska.

Andrew Stull, environmental health specialist for the Lawrence-Douglas County Health Department, spent two weeks in April in Kotzebue, Alaska, and five nearby villages as part ...

Aging Well »

THE SENIOR CELEBRATION ART SHOW and RECEPTION

SENIOR CELEBRATION ART SHOW &
RECEPTION

THE SENIOR CELEBRATION ART SHOW - June 1st thru 30th 1510 St. Andrews Drive at Drury Place at Alvamar 10:00 am to 5:00 pm daily ...

Linda Cottin's Blog »

Farmers Markets Are the Key Ingredient

With fresh ingredients from your local farmers market it is easy to make even the simplest of meals special.

On Friday, May 10, Micahel Pollan spoke about his new book “Cooked” at the Unity Temple in Kansas City. Several folks from Lawrence were lucky ...

Bert Nash Community Mental Health Center »

Mental Health Month proclamation

Mayor Dever reads a proclamation observing Mental Health Month.

Lawrence Mayor Michael Dever read a proclamation at Tuesday's city commission meeting in observance of Mental Health Month, proclaiming "a commitment to community-based systems of ...

Healthy Body & Mind »

Third graders get moving at Kansas Kids Fitness Day

Jump Rope Relays was one of 10 activity stations for students at Kansas Kids Fitness Day.

Anschutz Sports Pavilion on the University of Kansas campus was bursting with energy last Friday morning as 620 third-graders from Northeast Kansas filled it as ...

Lawrence-Douglas County Health Department »

Debbie Mitchell marks 5 years of service in Health Department's clinic office — 'a busy place'

Debbie Mitchell, clinic office assistant at the Lawrence-Douglas County Health Department, was recognized May 14, 2013, during a staff meeting for five years of service.

Before joining the Lawrence-Douglas County Health Department staff five years ago, Debbie Mitchell admits she had “no clue” about all of the services it provided ...

Independence, Inc. »

Donations Needed Immediately to Build Wheelchair Ramp for Eudora Man

Steve Hall needs to see his doctor, but until a wheelchair ramp can be constructed, he is effectively trapped in his home. Volunteers have agreed ...

Double Take: And next teen co-author is...

We had a record nine applicants for this year’s Double Take contest, with three juniors and six seniors, one from Free State, four from Bishop Seabury Academy and four from Lawrence High.

Doctor finds 'A Healthier Wei' to treat kids

Julie Wei was a pediatric Otolaryngologist, or ear, nose and throat specialist, at the University of Kansas Medical Center for more than ten years when she began to see a trend that she didn’t like: a large number of children with chronic congestion. Wei’s book, “A Healthier Wei” is an explanation of why she believes children are being misdiagnosed and wrongly medicated and her theory, with proven success, on how to fix these problems.

American Cancer Society to host volunteer open house

As a celebration of the 100th birthday of the American Cancer Society, the organization is encouraging people to raise awareness and join the fight against cancer.

Relay For Life of Douglas County »

Celebrate the American Cancer Society's 100th Birthday

May 22, 2013 marks the American Cancer Society's 100th Birthday. As the official sponsor of birthdays, we believe this year provides a unique opportunity for ...

Bobcat Marathon Club »

Record High!

Will just completed his 2nd marathon of the year!

We had a record high of 20 finishers today! Over 100 of our kids at Langston Hughes Elementary have completed 26.2 miles or more over ...

Belinda Rehmer's Blog »

LMH to Hold Stroke Risk Mini-Screening Event

May is Stroke Awareness Month. A stroke or brain attack is currently the fourth leading cause of death in the United States, but according to ...

Lawrence-Douglas County Health Department »

Lawrence-Douglas County Health Department celebrates nurses

Our nurses are, back row from left, Catherine Bird, Kathy Colson, Shirley Grubbs, Kelli Raney and Peggy Gabler; front row from left, Carolyn Ball, Corey Roelofs, Ashley Halton and Kim Ens.

It's National Nurses Week! At the Lawrence-Douglas County Health Department, nurses work in a variety of programs and do a variety of tasks. Those tasks ...

KHI News Service »

Kansas to get new ACA jobs despite snub of health care law

Lawrence call center expected to add positions to handle insurance exchange calls. Four states that have snubbed the federal health law by defaulting to the ...

Bert Nash Community Mental Health Center »

Takin' it to the streets: Bert Nash team reaches out to the Lawrence homeless population

David Tucker is a member of the Bert Nash homeless outreach team. He also works at the Lawrence Community Shelter.

With their long hair and long beards, they look like rock stars. But they don’t act like it. No limos or five-star hotels for this ...

Bobcat Marathon Club »

Aw Caramba!

Braiden brings in a strong finish!

Aw Caramba! We had 13 finishers today! These kids are motivated! Only two more days of marathon club left :-) See ya there!

Log in to your WellCommons account.

You may also use your LJWorld.com, Lawrence.com or KUSports.com account.

Forgotten your password?

Don’t have a WellCommons account? Get one now!

An account lets you join in the conversation, mark your favorites, get your own Blog and more.